Discussion:
Pink Floyd Sucks....OK I said it
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Cartrivision1
2006-09-18 06:01:05 UTC
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I do not see what the big draw to Pink Floyd is? Ok, back in the day I
guess they would have seemed cool to listen to after a few bong hits or
whatever, but their heyday is long over. And before you start to think
that I do not have any taste musically, I like a wide range of "prog
rock", as well as classical and electronic music. I saw the "Pulse"
concert last night on PBS and it damn near put me to sleep.

OK I admit, Animals was a pretty decent album, and I do believe I like
some of Wish You Were Here, but DSOTM is so overated it makes me want
to vomit. There is a local classic rock station here in town, and they
continue to play the same old boring songs off of that tired record
over and over. My god......what a bunch of crap that music is.

There is little joy in Pink Floyds music and lyrics. Well that would
be OK if the music actually said something or made you feel alive, but
the music is like the backdrop for a bad quaalude party or something.
And timeless the music is not. I know a lot of music from that era has
not aged particularly well, but compare PF's output from 79'-83' with a
lot of stuff that was going on. Yes had the "Drama" record, which both
kicked butt and was contemporary at the same time. Rush had the
"Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves" albums. Need I say more? Not to
mention all that was going on with new wave, synth pop, etc. Yes, I
know about The Wall, but by then they were definetly on the down slide
and apart from a few songs off that, I could take or leave it.

I put Pink Floyd in the same camp as Zepplin. Music that is OK if you
are a teen or twenty-something, but not enough substance for the long
haul. Prove me wrong, or point me to some "brilliant masterpiece" of
theirs that I have neglected to hear in my 30 years of listening to
good rock music.


CTV
freewheelin
2006-09-18 13:05:51 UTC
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You are deaf.
And you don't understand anything to music in general.
Need I say more ?
No, I don't.
JT
2006-09-18 18:28:08 UTC
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Pure architecture of the sound spectrum requires a certain amount of
sophistication to appreciate.
Minimalism in all forms of art is often "boring" to those who need the
blanks to be filled in because they lack the capacity of intellectual
extrapolation. In this art form, what isn't being played is as important
as what is chosen to be played. This concept may be too advanced for you
and, therefore, someone like Neil Pert will surely appear, in a plebian way,
dazzlingly prodigious and leave you quite sated.
However, once you graduate from that primitive cause and effect relationship
with music ( e.g. athleticism of the musician and tempo of the song equating
to artistic merit and intrinsic viability) you will understand why Pink
Floyd are masters of harnessing and controlling sound and why their fans are
legion.

JT
Cartrivision1
2006-09-18 19:51:24 UTC
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Post by JT
Pure architecture of the sound spectrum requires a certain amount of
sophistication to appreciate.
Minimalism in all forms of art is often "boring" to those who need the
blanks to be filled in because they lack the capacity of intellectual
extrapolation. In this art form, what isn't being played is as important
as what is chosen to be played. This concept may be too advanced for you
and, therefore, someone like Neil Pert will surely appear, in a plebian way,
dazzlingly prodigious and leave you quite sated.
However, once you graduate from that primitive cause and effect relationship
with music ( e.g. athleticism of the musician and tempo of the song equating
to artistic merit and intrinsic viability) you will understand why Pink
Floyd are masters of harnessing and controlling sound and why their fans are
legion.
JT
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Caffe Mocha
2006-09-18 21:58:16 UTC
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Post by Cartrivision1
Post by JT
Pure architecture of the sound spectrum requires a certain amount of
sophistication to appreciate.
Minimalism in all forms of art is often "boring" to those who need the
blanks to be filled in because they lack the capacity of intellectual
extrapolation. In this art form, what isn't being played is as important
as what is chosen to be played. This concept may be too advanced for you
and, therefore, someone like Neil Pert will surely appear, in a plebian way,
dazzlingly prodigious and leave you quite sated.
However, once you graduate from that primitive cause and effect relationship
with music ( e.g. athleticism of the musician and tempo of the song equating
to artistic merit and intrinsic viability) you will understand why Pink
Floyd are masters of harnessing and controlling sound and why their fans are
legion.
JT
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Uh, no. Nothing in what he said even suggested that.

When I got into prog-rock, I pretty much thought the best musicians
were the ones who could play their instruments the fastest. As I've
gotten older, listened to lots of music from countless genres, and
probably developed a more refined ear in the process, I realize there's
much, much more to good music than just chops. People who understand
that can appreciate the more subtle aspects that make a piece of music
timeless. Pink Floyd tapped into those subtleties ... an ineffable
quality that dazzles your senses and truly separates the wheat from the
chaff. David Gilmour may not have the greatest technical skills among
rock guitarists -- and he'd be the first to agree -- but what he does
with an economy of notes and limited skill blows away what just about
any other rock guitarist has been able to achieve, often with much more
effort and flash on his peers' behalf. Couple that with Roger Waters'
lyrics that speak to universal human conditions -- at least before he
got all whiny and self-pitying -- and you have a recipe for some of the
most amazing rock music ever created.

Someday, young padawan, you will understand. ;-)
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-18 23:06:24 UTC
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Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about Neil Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better than Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!

Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
2006-09-18 23:46:47 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about Neil Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better than Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!
Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
gay , gay,gay,gay, and gay!
JT
2006-09-19 00:39:14 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about Neil Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better than Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!
Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
I suppose my explanation would, indeed, be pure idiocy to someone with your
standards of eloquence.

JT
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-19 02:19:49 UTC
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Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about Neil Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better than Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!
Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
I suppose my explanation would, indeed, be pure idiocy to someone with your
standards of eloquence.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I will not compromise.
I will not be told what to do.
I shall not step aside.

They call me Mr. Knowitall
I have no time to waste.
My mouth it spews pure intellect.
And I've such elegant taste.

They call me Mr. Knowitall.
I sup the aged wine.
Oh I could tell such wonderous tales
if I should find the time.

I must be Mr. Knowitall
For ideas they come in bounds.
I am Mr. Knowitall
So spread the word around.

They call me Mr. Knowitall
I am so eloquent.
Perfection is my middle name
And whatever rhymes with eloquent.
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
JT
2006-09-19 03:06:38 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about Neil Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better
than
Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!
Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
I suppose my explanation would, indeed, be pure idiocy to someone with your
standards of eloquence.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I will not compromise.
I will not be told what to do.
I shall not step aside.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I have no time to waste.
My mouth it spews pure intellect.
And I've such elegant taste.
They call me Mr. Knowitall.
I sup the aged wine.
Oh I could tell such wonderous tales
if I should find the time.
I must be Mr. Knowitall
For ideas they come in bounds.
I am Mr. Knowitall
So spread the word around.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I am so eloquent.
Perfection is my middle name
And whatever rhymes with eloquent.
The light you shine on your own illiteracy is brighter than any flame of
mine.
I'm embarrassed for you.

JT
2006-09-19 11:51:14 UTC
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Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about Neil Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better
than
Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!
Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
I suppose my explanation would, indeed, be pure idiocy to someone with your
standards of eloquence.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I will not compromise.
I will not be told what to do.
I shall not step aside.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I have no time to waste.
My mouth it spews pure intellect.
And I've such elegant taste.
They call me Mr. Knowitall.
I sup the aged wine.
Oh I could tell such wonderous tales
if I should find the time.
I must be Mr. Knowitall
For ideas they come in bounds.
I am Mr. Knowitall
So spread the word around.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I am so eloquent.
Perfection is my middle name
And whatever rhymes with eloquent.
The light you shine on your own illiteracy is brighter than any flame of
mine.
I'm embarrassed for you.
JT
That's very touching. Really.
KAMON JACKSON
2006-09-19 13:57:31 UTC
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In the immortal words of John Cusack in High Fidelity: "How can it be
wrong to state a preference???"
JT
2006-09-19 17:08:19 UTC
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Post by aß
Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about
Neil
Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better
than
Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!
Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
I suppose my explanation would, indeed, be pure idiocy to someone with your
standards of eloquence.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I will not compromise.
I will not be told what to do.
I shall not step aside.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I have no time to waste.
My mouth it spews pure intellect.
And I've such elegant taste.
They call me Mr. Knowitall.
I sup the aged wine.
Oh I could tell such wonderous tales
if I should find the time.
I must be Mr. Knowitall
For ideas they come in bounds.
I am Mr. Knowitall
So spread the word around.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I am so eloquent.
Perfection is my middle name
And whatever rhymes with eloquent.
The light you shine on your own illiteracy is brighter than any flame of
mine.
I'm embarrassed for you.
JT
That's very touching. Really.
Yeah...it's no fun smearing a troll's nose in their own shit anymore. They
are so utterly defenseless nowadays. I blame the woeful under-funding of
Bush's "No Troll Left Behind" program.

JT
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-19 22:11:48 UTC
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Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by JT
Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
Translation; You have to be under the influence of the right drugs to
fully grasp the real genius of Pink Floyd.......dude.
Oh wait, that guy was actually _defending_ Pink Floyd? All I saw was some
kind of utterly pretentious bullshit mixed in with something about Neil Peart
and I thought that guy was talking about how Rush was so much better
than
Pink
Floyd. Mea culpa!
Anyway I don't know that that dude's on drugs, but he is a complete fucking
idiot. Most Floyd fans are, actually. Feel free to ignore him.
I suppose my explanation would, indeed, be pure idiocy to someone with your
standards of eloquence.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I will not compromise.
I will not be told what to do.
I shall not step aside.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I have no time to waste.
My mouth it spews pure intellect.
And I've such elegant taste.
They call me Mr. Knowitall.
I sup the aged wine.
Oh I could tell such wonderous tales
if I should find the time.
I must be Mr. Knowitall
For ideas they come in bounds.
I am Mr. Knowitall
So spread the word around.
They call me Mr. Knowitall
I am so eloquent.
Perfection is my middle name
And whatever rhymes with eloquent.
The light you shine on your own illiteracy is brighter than any flame of
mine.
I'm embarrassed for you.
Fine. _You_ write something that rhymes.
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
Kevan Smith
2006-09-19 23:49:33 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Fine. _You_ write something that rhymes.
There once was a man from Nantucket
Who had a dick so long he could suck it like an orange
He said with a grin
As he wiped off his chin
If my ear were a pussy I'd ....

You're right! Rhyming is hard work!
--
Vegan Reich!
http://www.meetyourmeat.com/
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-18 23:03:31 UTC
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Post by JT
Pure architecture of the sound spectrum requires a certain amount of
sophistication to appreciate.
Minimalism in all forms of art is often "boring" to those who need the
blanks to be filled in because they lack the capacity of intellectual
extrapolation. In this art form, what isn't being played is as important
as what is chosen to be played. This concept may be too advanced for you
and, therefore, someone like Neil Pert will surely appear, in a plebian way,
dazzlingly prodigious and leave you quite sated.
However, once you graduate from that primitive cause and effect relationship
with music ( e.g. athleticism of the musician and tempo of the song equating
to artistic merit and intrinsic viability) you will understand why Pink
Floyd are masters of harnessing and controlling sound and why their fans are
legion.
JT
*Rush fans*
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
Kyla
2006-09-29 04:16:00 UTC
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"freewheelin"
Post by freewheelin
You are deaf.
And you don't understand anything to music in general.
Need I say more ?
No, I don't.
I agree with you
Kyla%b
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-18 23:03:19 UTC
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Post by Cartrivision1
I do not see what the big draw to Pink Floyd is? Ok, back in the day I
guess they would have seemed cool to listen to after a few bong hits or
whatever, but their heyday is long over. And before you start to think
that I do not have any taste musically, I like a wide range of "prog
rock",
What, you mean you like YES, or maybe, perhaps, you like RUSH? Well, boy,
howdy. You'll never catch _me_ saying you have no taste.
Post by Cartrivision1
as well as classical and electronic music. I saw the "Pulse"
concert last night on PBS and it damn near put me to sleep.
That's OK. It puts us to sleep too.
Post by Cartrivision1
OK I admit, Animals was a pretty decent album, and I do believe I like
some of Wish You Were Here, but DSOTM is so overated it makes me want
to vomit. There is a local classic rock station here in town, and they
continue to play the same old boring songs off of that tired record
over and over. My god......what a bunch of crap that music is.
So that's three albums you've named by Pink Floyd and you like two of them.
So far you're not making your "Pink Floyd Sucks" case particularly well.

Yes, Dark Side of the Moon has been played about two billion times too many,
but I don't think it's consequently crap. I mean before it was played twelve
times a day on every classic rock station in the country it was pretty cool to
listen to. Honest.
Post by Cartrivision1
There is little joy in Pink Floyds music and lyrics. Well that would
be OK if the music actually said something or made you feel alive, but
the music is like the backdrop for a bad quaalude party or something.
And timeless the music is not. I know a lot of music from that era has
not aged particularly well, but compare PF's output from 79'-83' with a
lot of stuff that was going on. Yes had the "Drama" record, which both
kicked butt and was contemporary at the same time.
Yes well not everybody could have THE BUGGLES as their secret weapon.
Post by Cartrivision1
Rush had the
"Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves" albums. Need I say more?
Man, you know what's so cool? That part in Tom Sawyer that goes "Dee dee dee
dee dee dee, dee dee dee dee dee dee". That fucking ROCKS!
Post by Cartrivision1
Not to
mention all that was going on with new wave, synth pop, etc.
Because new wave and synthpop is music that's timeless and not at all dated,
as opposed to Pink Floyd's music, which is hopelessly behind the times due to
its non-use of the Fairlight synthesizer.
Post by Cartrivision1
Yes, I
know about The Wall, but by then they were definetly on the down slide
and apart from a few songs off that, I could take or leave it.
So you don't really dislike the Wall either. Man, I do a better job of hating
Pink Floyd than you do, and I don't even hate Pink Floyd!
Post by Cartrivision1
I put Pink Floyd in the same camp as Zepplin.
What category is that, bands whose names you can't spell correctly?
Post by Cartrivision1
Music that is OK if you
are a teen or twenty-something, but not enough substance for the long
haul. Prove me wrong, or point me to some "brilliant masterpiece" of
theirs that I have neglected to hear in my 30 years of listening to
good rock music.
Well, certainly they've never done anything as good as THE TREES, or DON'T
KILL THE WHALE.

However, you do seem to have completely overlooked the great number of albums
they did before "Dark Side of the Moon", which are not without merit.
Specifically, many folks here feel the song "Echoes", from the album _Meddle_,
to be the greatest thing they've ever done. "Astronomy Domine" from their
first album, _Piper at the Gates of Dawn_, is also superb.
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
Steven Sullivan
2006-09-18 23:55:37 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
I do not see what the big draw to Pink Floyd is? Ok, back in the day I
guess they would have seemed cool to listen to after a few bong hits or
whatever, but their heyday is long over. And before you start to think
that I do not have any taste musically, I like a wide range of "prog
rock",
What, you mean you like YES, or maybe, perhaps, you like RUSH? Well, boy,
howdy. You'll never catch _me_ saying you have no taste.
Post by Cartrivision1
as well as classical and electronic music. I saw the "Pulse"
concert last night on PBS and it damn near put me to sleep.
That's OK. It puts us to sleep too.
Post by Cartrivision1
OK I admit, Animals was a pretty decent album, and I do believe I like
some of Wish You Were Here, but DSOTM is so overated it makes me want
to vomit. There is a local classic rock station here in town, and they
continue to play the same old boring songs off of that tired record
over and over. My god......what a bunch of crap that music is.
So that's three albums you've named by Pink Floyd and you like two of them.
So far you're not making your "Pink Floyd Sucks" case particularly well.
Yes, Dark Side of the Moon has been played about two billion times too many,
but I don't think it's consequently crap. I mean before it was played twelve
times a day on every classic rock station in the country it was pretty cool to
listen to. Honest.
Post by Cartrivision1
There is little joy in Pink Floyds music and lyrics. Well that would
be OK if the music actually said something or made you feel alive, but
the music is like the backdrop for a bad quaalude party or something.
And timeless the music is not. I know a lot of music from that era has
not aged particularly well, but compare PF's output from 79'-83' with a
lot of stuff that was going on. Yes had the "Drama" record, which both
kicked butt and was contemporary at the same time.
Yes well not everybody could have THE BUGGLES as their secret weapon.
Post by Cartrivision1
Rush had the
"Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves" albums. Need I say more?
Man, you know what's so cool? That part in Tom Sawyer that goes "Dee dee dee
dee dee dee, dee dee dee dee dee dee". That fucking ROCKS!
But it is AS NOTHING to that mournful guitar part in SOYCD that goes
dum DING dum DAAAH.
Cartrivision1
2006-09-19 01:23:58 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
I do not see what the big draw to Pink Floyd is? Ok, back in the day I
guess they would have seemed cool to listen to after a few bong hits or
whatever, but their heyday is long over. And before you start to think
that I do not have any taste musically, I like a wide range of "prog
rock",
What, you mean you like YES, or maybe, perhaps, you like RUSH? Well, boy,
howdy. You'll never catch _me_ saying you have no taste.
I used Rush and Yes as examples of some bands of that era who were
changing with the times. Pink Floyd obviously did not, as they had all
but basically disbanded by 81' if I am not mistaken. I like a lot of
music from Pink's heyday......early Genesis or Strawbs would come to
mind. Or even the first few Saga albums blow away anything Pink Floyd
did. But my musical taste is not the subject. The fact is that Pink
Floyd was/is a boring band and never evolved past their "art rock" or
whatever you like to call it of the mid 70's.

I used Rush as an example, and a good one. They produced some very
good progressive type rock in the mid 70's, and as the decade came to a
close they were shaping their sound to something more in line with the
times. Same with Yes and the Drama album. As far as I know Pink Floyd
had nothing left to say after The Wall and basically splintered apart.


I asked for someone to point out one of the masterpieces that I might
have overlooked. So far nothing. Yes, I have heard their meandering
psych rock pre Dark Side Of The Moon, and that impressed me when I was
20 years old and stoned all of the time. Not much now.
Steven Sullivan
2006-09-19 01:30:57 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
I do not see what the big draw to Pink Floyd is? Ok, back in the day I
guess they would have seemed cool to listen to after a few bong hits or
whatever, but their heyday is long over. And before you start to think
that I do not have any taste musically, I like a wide range of "prog
rock",
What, you mean you like YES, or maybe, perhaps, you like RUSH? Well, boy,
howdy. You'll never catch _me_ saying you have no taste.
I used Rush and Yes as examples of some bands of that era who were
changing with the times. Pink Floyd obviously did not, as they had all
but basically disbanded by 81' if I am not mistaken.
Ever hear 'Run Like Hell', douchebag?
Post by Cartrivision1
I used Rush as an example, and a good one. They produced some very
good progressive type rock in the mid 70's, and as the decade came to a
close they were shaping their sound to something more in line with the
times. Same with Yes and the Drama album. As far as I know Pink Floyd
had nothing left to say after The Wall and basically splintered apart.
Rush never progressed beyond their 'Police' phase...unless you count
their laughable attempt at 'rap' with 'Roll the Bones'.

Pink Floyd sucked int 80's, but your promotion of *Yes* and 'Rush' for god's sake,
as exemplars of *progress* in the 80's, is a joke and shows you tobe as much a clueless
old fart as anyone you claim to be dissing.




___
-S
"As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-19 02:22:00 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by Cartrivision1
I do not see what the big draw to Pink Floyd is? Ok, back in the day I
guess they would have seemed cool to listen to after a few bong hits or
whatever, but their heyday is long over. And before you start to think
that I do not have any taste musically, I like a wide range of "prog
rock",
What, you mean you like YES, or maybe, perhaps, you like RUSH? Well, boy,
howdy. You'll never catch _me_ saying you have no taste.
I used Rush and Yes as examples of some bands of that era who were
changing with the times. Pink Floyd obviously did not, as they had all
but basically disbanded by 81' if I am not mistaken. I like a lot of
music from Pink's heyday......early Genesis or Strawbs would come to
mind. Or even the first few Saga albums blow away anything Pink Floyd
did
Wait a second.

Would you please repeat that? I'm not sure I heard you correctly.
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oldpink
2006-09-19 03:50:32 UTC
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I asked for someone to point out one of the masterpieces that I might
have overlooked. So far nothing. Yes, I have heard their meandering
psych rock pre Dark Side Of The Moon, and that impressed me when I was
20 years old and stoned all of the time. Not much now.
Listen, taking into account you proclaiming yourself a rabid Rush fan, I
almost see no reason to help you even a tiny bit.
But, yes, there are actually four albums I find worthy, as excellent,
one of which is a near masterpiece all on its own, that album being
"Wish You Were Here,"
The other three are:
Animals
Meddle
Obscured by Clouds

But, hey, if to you the pinnacle of a band's musicianship is slap bass,
ultra-cheesy keyboard solos, and rapid-fire percussion swirls, these may
not necessarily be for you.
Might I suggest listening to Eddie van Halen circa 2005 onward?
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freewheelin
2006-09-22 10:09:01 UTC
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Or even the first few Saga albums blow away anything Pink Floyd did.

You are definitevely DEAF.
Post by Cartrivision1
But my musical taste is not the subject.
WTF ???
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-22 22:39:04 UTC
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Or even the first few Saga albums blow away anything Pink Floyd did.
You are definitevely DEAF.
You can't be down on Saga! They're like the Canadian Rush!
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
tension_on_the_wire
2006-09-23 06:07:46 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by freewheelin
Or even the first few Saga albums blow away anything Pink Floyd did.
You are definitevely DEAF.
You can't be down on Saga! They're like the Canadian Rush!
Wow, the Canadian Rush, eh? And that would make Rush uh..........not
Canadian?

--tension
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-23 12:27:49 UTC
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Post by Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
Post by freewheelin
Or even the first few Saga albums blow away anything Pink Floyd did.
You are definitevely DEAF.
You can't be down on Saga! They're like the Canadian Rush!
Wow, the Canadian Rush, eh? And that would make Rush uh..........not
Canadian?
Mexicans. It's all true. The whole thing is just one big plot masterminded
by John Rutsey.
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
m***@youwasyoung.org
2006-09-18 22:57:33 UTC
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Post by Cartrivision1
Prove me wrong, or point me to some "brilliant masterpiece" of
theirs that I have neglected to hear in my 30 years of listening to
good rock music.
I'll just point you to the door, troll!
If you don't have the ears, you don't have the ears. That's
that. So what.







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Cartrivision1
2006-09-19 17:09:54 UTC
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Prove me wrong, or point me to some "brilliant masterpiece" of
theirs that I have neglected to hear in my 30 years of listening to
good rock music.
I'll just point you to the door, troll!
If you don't have the ears, you don't have the ears. That's
that. So what.
Instead of us arguing back and forth, why don't you PROVE me wrong and
list all of PF's musical masterpieces, song by song, not just whole
albums. I can only think of two songs of theirs that way, and that is
"Welcome To The Machine" and maybe the song from Animals, Pigs, sheep,
Dogs, whatever it is called. OK, I will throw in Comfortably Numb in
there as I know it will be mentioned and I do like the outro.

My point is that it is easy to point to whole albums and say "Yeah man,
this is great stuff". But when you break it down it is just the
backdrop to a good drug trip. I am not saying that Pink Floyd does not
have their place as one of the better 70's bands, but way overrated in
my opinion.
Steven Sullivan
2006-09-19 17:19:50 UTC
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Post by m***@youwasyoung.org
Post by Cartrivision1
Prove me wrong, or point me to some "brilliant masterpiece" of
theirs that I have neglected to hear in my 30 years of listening to
good rock music.
I'll just point you to the door, troll!
If you don't have the ears, you don't have the ears. That's
that. So what.
Instead of us arguing back and forth, why don't you PROVE me wrong and
list all of PF's musical masterpieces, song by song, not just whole
albums.
How does one PROVE something like that, doofus?


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metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason
Gil "Pferd" Ulrik
2006-09-19 22:13:30 UTC
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Post by m***@youwasyoung.org
Post by Cartrivision1
Prove me wrong, or point me to some "brilliant masterpiece" of
theirs that I have neglected to hear in my 30 years of listening to
good rock music.
I'll just point you to the door, troll!
If you don't have the ears, you don't have the ears. That's
that. So what.
Instead of us arguing back and forth, why don't you PROVE me wrong and
list all of PF's musical masterpieces, song by song, not just whole
albums. I can only think of two songs of theirs that way, and that is
"Welcome To The Machine" and maybe the song from Animals, Pigs, sheep,
Dogs, whatever it is called. OK, I will throw in Comfortably Numb in
there as I know it will be mentioned and I do like the outro.
So wait. You don't like Pink Floyd, but you think they have at least three
"musical masterpieces". You know how many musical masterpieces the bands _I_
hate have?
--
"I'm Imhotep! So,
Take care of this stinking vest!
Horse, disable Yoda pants!
Yoda pant tailor
Then DIE!!!!" - Christian Vander, Nebehr Gudatt
AC
2006-09-19 17:51:25 UTC
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On 17 Sep 2006 23:01:05 -0700,
Post by Cartrivision1
I put Pink Floyd in the same camp as Zepplin. Music that is OK if you
are a teen or twenty-something, but not enough substance for the long
haul. Prove me wrong, or point me to some "brilliant masterpiece" of
theirs that I have neglected to hear in my 30 years of listening to
good rock music.
Why the fuck should I prove you wrong, right or otherwise? If you don't
like them, then go listen to something else. Hell, I hate Frank Sinatra,
but lots of people do, and I'm not going to go to a Frank Sinatra group
and act like a mental retard and demand "prove me wrong".
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