The Answer to the Publius Enigma

Post by e***@chinagreenelvis.com
The answer is Denise Sharpe. Carl Palmer must be stopped at all costs.
There, I said it. It's done. That's the answer. I posted it. I am the
Right One.
If I fail to get my crop of trees, it will be incontrovertible proof
that this answer is wrong.

I realize I am just another looney from the web, but strictly in my
opinion,
don't dismiss the notion that the enigma manifests itself in an
extremely personal way in the lives of each individual who can hear
"the message". I know it sounds crazy but I as well as others who are
close to me know about the events that transpired in my life that
somehow are connected to what I beleive the enigma to be about. These
events that happened to me are far beyond rational explanation.

There is something very different about Pink Floyd's music as opposed
to 90% of the other musical composers who have graced this green
earth.

Remember, all of creation is but vibration. It is a language all to
it's own.

a_rod_777

2008-05-04 07:05:56 UTC

Since we are on giving answers do you mind if I try one. It will be
short and direct, I promise.

There is an awful lot of duality involved in the enigma.

One prime example is

T H E M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<

It could be seen as

-------- I N T E G R A T I V E P O I N T ++++++++

It also mirrors TDB cover which might be interpreted something like
this
face 1 not communicating with face 2 because of a blockage. They are
not integrated.

My answer is:

Dissolve duality and integrate polar opposites.

-ant

luvhockey

2008-05-04 12:47:59 UTC

What a jerk!!

luvhockey

2008-05-04 13:01:16 UTC

What a jerk!!

Yes Eric Vinyard (chinagreenelvis) You are the Winner!! Jerks are,
unfortunately disqualified from receiving the prize. So sorry!

luvhockey

2008-05-04 13:09:27 UTC

What a jerk!!

Yes Eric Vinyard (chinagreenelvis) You are the Winner!! Jerks are,
unfortunately disqualified from receiving the prize. So sorry!

Eric says the Enigma is all about a US Government employee?? Duh I
thought I sounded nuts! Maybe the Government will take it back
someday. Was that the book that Gilmour was reading when he wrote
Take it back? Some US government manual?

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-04 15:51:30 UTC

Post by luvhockey
Yes Eric Vinyard (chinagreenelvis) You are the Winner!! Jerks are,
unfortunately disqualified from receiving the prize. So sorry!

Haha... but no. I said the answer that you insist is right, and if I
don't recieve the prize then the answer is just plain wrong.

Ant, I know what you're saying, and philosophically, I've considered
that purpose as well. I've also read on some older threads people who
really took a step back and looked at her story and said very clearly,
"Maybe she really does have the answer. Maybe each one of us is
supposed to show how The Division Bell touched our lives in an
individual way and in doing so, we all reveal the answer for
ourselves."

D didn't respond to any of those posts, however, so I can only
conclude that she doesn't agree with that. To her the answer is not
"each one of us has a personal answer," the answer is "Me."

Publius inferred that the prize could go to a person or a group of
persons. If a group of persons could each win the prize by posting
"the answer is me," Then technically one person should have won the
prize for saying it. Denise should have already gotten her clear cut
area of woods.

If the answer is "each one of us has a personal answer," the prize
would have been given out quite some time ago.

If the ansewr is "Denise Sharpe," I have posted that answer here and I
will get the prize, unless of course recieving the prize completely
depends on whether or not Denise thinks I deserve to recieve it, and
apparently, it does. I'm sure Publius is just waiting for the "go"
signal from her, right?

Well, D, give him the signal. Give me my crop of trees and it will be
absolute proof to EVERYONE here that you are the answer to the Publius
Enigma.

luvhockey

2008-05-04 16:08:45 UTC

Yes Eric Vinyard (chinagreenelvis) You are the Winner!! Jerks are,
unfortunately disqualified from receiving the prize. So sorry!

Haha... but no. I said the answer that you insist is right, and if I
don't recieve the prize then the answer is just plain wrong.
Ant, I know what you're saying, and philosophically, I've considered
that purpose as well. I've also read on some older threads people who
really took a step back and looked at her story and said very clearly,
"Maybe she really does have the answer. Maybe each one of us is
supposed to show how The Division Bell touched our lives in an
individual way and in doing so, we all reveal the answer for
ourselves."
D didn't respond to any of those posts, however, so I can only
conclude that she doesn't agree with that. To her the answer is not
"each one of us has a personal answer," the answer is "Me."
Publius inferred that the prize could go to a person or a group of
persons. If a group of persons could each win the prize by posting
"the answer is me," Then technically one person should have won the
prize for saying it. Denise should have already gotten her clear cut
area of woods.
If the answer is "each one of us has a personal answer," the prize
would have been given out quite some time ago.
If the ansewr is "Denise Sharpe," I have posted that answer here and I
will get the prize, unless of course recieving the prize completely
depends on whether or not Denise thinks I deserve to recieve it, and
apparently, it does. I'm sure Publius is just waiting for the "go"
signal from her, right?
Well, D, give him the signal. Give me my crop of trees and it will be
absolute proof to EVERYONE here that you are the answer to the Publius
Enigma.

get over it. Jeez....I gave up talking about the Enigma years ago and
you just jumped on the Enigma bandwagon looking things up now, who the
freak cares.
leave me alone! and don't send me anymore emails.

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-04 16:25:54 UTC

Post by luvhockey
get over it. Jeez....I gave up talking about the Enigma years ago

You did not ever give up talking about the enigma. Ever. In fact, the
only reason I ever started debating with you about it was because I
had noticed that in fourteen years, you hadn't stopped talking about
it. Anytime anyone else brings the subject up, you find your way into
that thread and you start posting things like and "She may know more
than you think" and "it's a battle of words, haven't you heard?" You
can't let it go.

Post by luvhockey
who the freak cares.

I do. I think you should either give up on the joke you started in
1996 or you should prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you're right.

luvhockey

2008-05-04 16:33:23 UTC

get over it. Jeez....I gave up talking about the Enigma years ago

who the freak cares.

I do. I think you should either give up on the joke you started in
1996 or you should prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you're right.

I am in the process of getting some pics together, if you stfu, then
I'll email them to you. if not, then forget it,
Hey fans didn't believe me, and I have every right to stick in a
comment where I believe that I know something. See I used the word
"Believe" I believe that I know the enigma, OK? but you consider
everything a coincidence. When do the coincidences stop? jeez

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-04 16:54:09 UTC

Post by luvhockey
I am in the process of getting some pics together, if you stfu, then
I'll email them to you. if not, then forget it,
Hey fans didn't believe me, and I have every right to stick in a
comment where I believe that I know something. See I used the word
"Believe" I believe that I know the enigma, OK? but you consider
everything a coincidence. When do the coincidences stop? jeez

You should post your pictures here, but if you want to send them to
me, that's cool too, but I'm more interested in hearing your whole
story, start to finish, down to every last detail. This thread should
prove once and for all that you are not the answer to the Publius
Enigma, but that doesn't mean your story isn't fascinating.

I don't believe in "coincidence" per se, only synchronicity. I believe
everything in our universe is fundamentally interconnected. I believe
any exhaustive research into and overanalysis of seemingly unrelated
aspects of any given singular phenomenon will yeild unexplainable but
potentially meaningful coincidences. Acknowledging synchronicity and
pondering it is fun and productive, but drawing conclusions from those
correlations is dangerous and will only lead to insanity.

luvhockey

2008-05-04 17:44:36 UTC

You should post your pictures here, but if you want to send them to
me, that's cool too, but I'm more interested in hearing your whole
story, start to finish, down to every last detail. This thread should
prove once and for all that you are not the answer to the Publius
Enigma, but that doesn't mean your story isn't fascinating.
I don't believe in "coincidence" per se, only synchronicity. I believe
everything in our universe is fundamentally interconnected. I believe
any exhaustive research into and overanalysis of seemingly unrelated
aspects of any given singular phenomenon will yeild unexplainable but
potentially meaningful coincidences. Acknowledging synchronicity and
pondering it is fun and productive, but drawing conclusions from those
correlations is dangerous and will only lead to insanity.

check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.

luvhockey

2008-05-04 17:50:42 UTC

You should post your pictures here, but if you want to send them to
me, that's cool too, but I'm more interested in hearing your whole
story, start to finish, down to every last detail. This thread should
prove once and for all that you are not the answer to the Publius
Enigma, but that doesn't mean your story isn't fascinating.
I don't believe in "coincidence" per se, only synchronicity. I believe
everything in our universe is fundamentally interconnected. I believe
any exhaustive research into and overanalysis of seemingly unrelated
aspects of any given singular phenomenon will yeild unexplainable but
potentially meaningful coincidences. Acknowledging synchronicity and
pondering it is fun and productive, but drawing conclusions from those
correlations is dangerous and will only lead to insanity.

check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I mean Wide Wise. No one ever gave the clue of Wiseman, they should
of,
that would have helped you know! But there is a man there.

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-04 18:49:19 UTC

Post by luvhockey
check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.- Hide quoted text -

I can see the similarities in those two images, in the fact that it
appears to be what could be a shirtless guy with lights behind him.
It's not the same image or the same man, but I wouldn't expect it to
be even if one represents the other.

Unfortunately as well, you really can't expect anyone to believe in
your ideas when you support them with clues from Genesis. Unless you
want to be the answer to the "Genesis Enigma" and not the Publius
Enigma.

Despite the detective work which strongly suggests he was this
Hutcheson kid, Genesis never validated his claim to the Publius Enigma
or to be in any way connected to Pink Floyd. Publius gave us the
bright lights in New Jersey. What has Genesis ever given?

You suggest that Genesis proved his validity because he gave clues
with your name in it. But

a. if Genesis was a fake, he was a fake because he liked to fuck with
people. If he liked to fuck with people and he was familiar with your
story (which you had obviously been writing about before he showed up)
then there isn't any reason to believe that he would have a field day
with it, and

b. it's entirely possible you and this person spoke with each other
behind the scenes and made efforts to work together in order to screw
with the newsgroup. You can deny it, but there's no proof. Innocent
until proven guilty, sure, but possibilities to the contrary render
absolute belief vulnerable to questioning.

Show me some real, hard evidence that Genesis was a genuine messenger,
or show how your story relates to the clues given to us by Publius in
1994/95.

luvhockey

2008-05-04 21:12:35 UTC

Post by luvhockey
check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.- Hide quoted text -

I can see the similarities in those two images, in the fact that it
appears to be what could be a shirtless guy with lights behind him.
It's not the same image or the same man, but I wouldn't expect it to
be even if one represents the other.
Unfortunately as well, you really can't expect anyone to believe in
your ideas when you support them with clues from Genesis. Unless you
want to be the answer to the "Genesis Enigma" and not the Publius
Enigma.
Despite the detective work which strongly suggests he was this
Hutcheson kid, Genesis never validated his claim to the Publius Enigma
or to be in any way connected to Pink Floyd. Publius gave us the
bright lights in New Jersey. What has Genesis ever given?
You suggest that Genesis proved his validity because he gave clues
with your name in it. But
a. if Genesis was a fake, he was a fake because he liked to fuck with
people. If he liked to fuck with people and he was familiar with your
story (which you had obviously been writing about before he showed up)
then there isn't any reason to believe that he would have a field day
with it, and
b. it's entirely possible you and this person spoke with each other
behind the scenes and made efforts to work together in order to screw
with the newsgroup. You can deny it, but there's no proof. Innocent
until proven guilty, sure, but possibilities to the contrary render
absolute belief vulnerable to questioning.
Show me some real, hard evidence that Genesis was a genuine messenger,
or show how your story relates to the clues given to us by Publius in
1994/95.

I don't expect anyone to believe me. I have my beliefs, you wanted to
know them and I told you. Thats' all I can do. Everything I ever said
is somewhere on the internet. I never pretended to be anyone else. I
had enough trouble trying to be myself and trying to work a computer!!
My mind was still out there..when I started to post on ampf in 94. I
was still not back from the rollercoaster ride someone took me on.
Why there weren't better clues I don't know.I had a story before TDB
was even written, and when it came out it was exactly what I was going
through, exactly, lyrics and artwork. So I figured I would tell what I
know on ampf and I did. I got blasted with hate every day and I
continued talking until my heart couldn't take anymore and I stopped
talking.

I gave you bits of evidence everyday and I could continue to give
them until dooms day. But until you start to have some belief, then
you won't have anything. Trust? no one trusted anyone like they were
suppose to. Even if I had the absolute proof right now, I wouldn't
give it to you because of your non belief.
I have been the ONLY person to ever have claimed to know what TDB
music and artwork were about. And that is directly what the PF Enigma
is about, the lyrics and the artwork.
Before TDB came out, I thought to myself, wow if only I could write an
album, this is such a great concept!! If only I could write lyrics, I
would have something. But when TDB came out, they had it all for me
to help me understand what someone was doing to me. and it was the
help I needed and prayed for.

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-04 23:14:12 UTC

Post by luvhockey
check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.- Hide quoted text -

I can see the similarities in those two images, in the fact that it
appears to be what could be a shirtless guy with lights behind him.
It's not the same image or the same man, but I wouldn't expect it to
be even if one represents the other.
Unfortunately as well, you really can't expect anyone to believe in
your ideas when you support them with clues from Genesis. Unless you
want to be the answer to the "Genesis Enigma" and not the Publius
Enigma.
Despite the detective work which strongly suggests he was this
Hutcheson kid, Genesis never validated his claim to the Publius Enigma
or to be in any way connected to Pink Floyd. Publius gave us the
bright lights in New Jersey. What has Genesis ever given?
You suggest that Genesis proved his validity because he gave clues
with your name in it. But
a. if Genesis was a fake, he was a fake because he liked to fuck with
people. If he liked to fuck with people and he was familiar with your
story (which you had obviously been writing about before he showed up)
then there isn't any reason to believe that he would have a field day
with it, and
b. it's entirely possible you and this person spoke with each other
behind the scenes and made efforts to work together in order to screw
with the newsgroup. You can deny it, but there's no proof. Innocent
until proven guilty, sure, but possibilities to the contrary render
absolute belief vulnerable to questioning.
Show me some real, hard evidence that Genesis was a genuine messenger,
or show how your story relates to the clues given to us by Publius in
1994/95.

I don't expect anyone to believe me. I have my beliefs, you wanted to
know them and I told you. Thats' all I can do. Everything I ever said
is somewhere on the internet. I never pretended to be anyone else. I
had enough trouble trying to be myself and trying to work a computer!!
My mind was still out there..when I started to post on ampf in 94. I
was still not back from the rollercoaster ride someone took me on.
Why there weren't better clues I don't know.I had a story before TDB
was even written, and when it came out it was exactly what I was going
through, exactly, lyrics and artwork. So I figured I would tell what I
know on ampf and I did. I got blasted with hate every day and I
continued talking until my heart couldn't take anymore and I stopped
talking.
I gave you bits of evidence everyday and I could continue to give
them until dooms day. But until you start to have some belief, then
you won't have anything. Trust? no one trusted anyone like they were
suppose to. Even if I had the absolute proof right now, I wouldn't
give it to you because of your non belief.
I have been the ONLY person to ever have claimed to know what TDB
music and artwork were about. And that is directly what the PF Enigma
is about, the lyrics and the artwork.
Before TDB came out, I thought to myself, wow if only I could write an
album, this is such a great concept!! If only I could write lyrics, I
would have something. But when TDB came out, they had it all for me
to help me understand what someone was doing to me. and it was the
help I needed and prayed for.

I never asked you for your beliefs, I'm very familiar with those. I
asked you for your story, start to finish, all details included. I
tried looking for the very first posts you made to usenet to see if
you actually ever did throw it all out on the table, but Google
doesn't seem to go pre 1997 for the name I think you were using at the
time.

Regardless, there's a difference between having your personal
interpretation of an album give you the kind of motivations you need
at a particular time in your life and claiming that Pink Floyd
orchestrated an internet puzzle because of it. Big, big, bigbigbig
difference. There are crazy and unexplainable things that happen to us
in life, but they are not the work of progressive rock bands; they are
works of fate, God or something like it.

Anyway, whatever. I obviously can't discourage you from trolling
around and dropping little turds of Genesis "clues" but I will say
that aside from that mess you're a pretty cool person. I wish you were
a little more open minded, especially seeing as how you've not only
displayed continued interest in the enigma, you're incredibly
observant and obviously a creative thinker. If you could devote those
energies to finding the REAL solution...

luvhockey

2008-05-05 00:28:20 UTC

Post by luvhockey
check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.- Hide quoted text -

I can see the similarities in those two images, in the fact that it
appears to be what could be a shirtless guy with lights behind him.
It's not the same image or the same man, but I wouldn't expect it to
be even if one represents the other.
Unfortunately as well, you really can't expect anyone to believe in
your ideas when you support them with clues from Genesis. Unless you
want to be the answer to the "Genesis Enigma" and not the Publius
Enigma.
Despite the detective work which strongly suggests he was this
Hutcheson kid, Genesis never validated his claim to the Publius Enigma
or to be in any way connected to Pink Floyd. Publius gave us the
bright lights in New Jersey. What has Genesis ever given?
You suggest that Genesis proved his validity because he gave clues
with your name in it. But
a. if Genesis was a fake, he was a fake because he liked to fuck with
people. If he liked to fuck with people and he was familiar with your
story (which you had obviously been writing about before he showed up)
then there isn't any reason to believe that he would have a field day
with it, and
b. it's entirely possible you and this person spoke with each other
behind the scenes and made efforts to work together in order to screw
with the newsgroup. You can deny it, but there's no proof. Innocent
until proven guilty, sure, but possibilities to the contrary render
absolute belief vulnerable to questioning.
Show me some real, hard evidence that Genesis was a genuine messenger,
or show how your story relates to the clues given to us by Publius in
1994/95.

I don't expect anyone to believe me. I have my beliefs, you wanted to
know them and I told you. Thats' all I can do. Everything I ever said
is somewhere on the internet. I never pretended to be anyone else. I
had enough trouble trying to be myself and trying to work a computer!!
My mind was still out there..when I started to post on ampf in 94. I
was still not back from the rollercoaster ride someone took me on.
Why there weren't better clues I don't know.I had a story before TDB
was even written, and when it came out it was exactly what I was going
through, exactly, lyrics and artwork. So I figured I would tell what I
know on ampf and I did. I got blasted with hate every day and I
continued talking until my heart couldn't take anymore and I stopped
talking.
I gave you bits of evidence everyday and I could continue to give
them until dooms day. But until you start to have some belief, then
you won't have anything. Trust? no one trusted anyone like they were
suppose to. Even if I had the absolute proof right now, I wouldn't
give it to you because of your non belief.
I have been the ONLY person to ever have claimed to know what TDB
music and artwork were about. And that is directly what the PF Enigma
is about, the lyrics and the artwork.
Before TDB came out, I thought to myself, wow if only I could write an
album, this is such a great concept!! If only I could write lyrics, I
would have something. But when TDB came out, they had it all for me
to help me understand what someone was doing to me. and it was the
help I needed and prayed for.

I never asked you for your beliefs, I'm very familiar with those. I
asked you for your story, start to finish, all details included. I
tried looking for the very first posts you made to usenet to see if
you actually ever did throw it all out on the table, but Google
doesn't seem to go pre 1997 for the name I think you were using at the
time.
Regardless, there's a difference between having your personal
interpretation of an album give you the kind of motivations you need
at a particular time in your life and claiming that Pink Floyd
orchestrated an internet puzzle because of it. Big, big, bigbigbig
difference. There are crazy and unexplainable things that happen to us
in life, but they are not the work of progressive rock bands; they are
works of fate, God or something like it.
Anyway, whatever. I obviously can't discourage you from trolling
around and dropping little turds of Genesis "clues" but I will say
that aside from that mess you're a pretty cool person. I wish you were
a little more open minded, especially seeing as how you've not only
displayed continued interest in the enigma, you're incredibly
observant and obviously a creative thinker. If you could devote those
energies to finding the REAL solution...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I did throw it all out on the table at publiusenigma.com, but they are
out of business and I don't know why. Could be that I talked too much
and someone
didn't like it. Craig McGee might know what happened to Renee's
website.
I called myself "thesun" back in 1994 in ampf. Perhaps use that to see
what I was saying. Jeez I sounded nutty back then because I was still
not entirely out of my delusion. I was so excited when I first heard
the Division Bell and I wanted to tell the world!! But didn't know
where or who would believe me, then I saw Gilmour talking about ampf
in Guitar World mag and I knew I had to get over here and tell it.
But people just called me a lunatic, nutcase, whacko and for me to
take my medication!! hehe! I can laugh about it now.
There is something that I'm still trying to figure out. "Where were
you when this all started, what were you doing and what were you
thinking when you first saw PF"
I got that message in an email from Pubius/Genesis. And I know its a
clue given here by either Genesis or Publius.
I do know one thing, that Publius wrote that its more than just a
castle and a field.
and Not to hold things up to the light. That doesn't make sense
because when you hold things up to the light you get the clues that
Genesis gave. Maybe he was saying not to, just to get people to do
it.
the castle in between the mouths represents Stings castle home where
he recorded Fields of Gold. I have the video of that and during the
song he looks out the window at a leafless tree! Sting did say in
that article that the song was about "other people" now he has changed
his story and says its about something else. Everyone is covering up
things they did so that when and if I do come out with what I know,
they will have proof to contradict me and say I"m a nutter.
I mean lie in fields of gold, the two heads are lying in a field and
its gold, jeez how
easy is that?
That is the only song to this day that I cannot stand listening to. It
didn't remind me of my times with my old friend, it was the other way
around. When I thought about my old friend and our times, I started
to think of that song and it came at exactly the correct time to just
put me over the edge. But I'm here, alive and talking!! I think they
did so much weirdness to me that they figured if I told it all, that I
would never be believed. The more I told, the more unbelievable I
sounded.
later........
D

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-05 02:48:02 UTC

Post by luvhockey
check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.- Hide quoted text -

I can see the similarities in those two images, in the fact that it
appears to be what could be a shirtless guy with lights behind him.
It's not the same image or the same man, but I wouldn't expect it to
be even if one represents the other.
Unfortunately as well, you really can't expect anyone to believe in
your ideas when you support them with clues from Genesis. Unless you
want to be the answer to the "Genesis Enigma" and not the Publius
Enigma.
Despite the detective work which strongly suggests he was this
Hutcheson kid, Genesis never validated his claim to the Publius Enigma
or to be in any way connected to Pink Floyd. Publius gave us the
bright lights in New Jersey. What has Genesis ever given?
You suggest that Genesis proved his validity because he gave clues
with your name in it. But
a. if Genesis was a fake, he was a fake because he liked to fuck with
people. If he liked to fuck with people and he was familiar with your
story (which you had obviously been writing about before he showed up)
then there isn't any reason to believe that he would have a field day
with it, and
b. it's entirely possible you and this person spoke with each other
behind the scenes and made efforts to work together in order to screw
with the newsgroup. You can deny it, but there's no proof. Innocent
until proven guilty, sure, but possibilities to the contrary render
absolute belief vulnerable to questioning.
Show me some real, hard evidence that Genesis was a genuine messenger,
or show how your story relates to the clues given to us by Publius in
1994/95.

I don't expect anyone to believe me. I have my beliefs, you wanted to
know them and I told you. Thats' all I can do. Everything I ever said
is somewhere on the internet. I never pretended to be anyone else. I
had enough trouble trying to be myself and trying to work a computer!!
My mind was still out there..when I started to post on ampf in 94. I
was still not back from the rollercoaster ride someone took me on.
Why there weren't better clues I don't know.I had a story before TDB
was even written, and when it came out it was exactly what I was going
through, exactly, lyrics and artwork. So I figured I would tell what I
know on ampf and I did. I got blasted with hate every day and I
continued talking until my heart couldn't take anymore and I stopped
talking.
I gave you bits of evidence everyday and I could continue to give
them until dooms day. But until you start to have some belief, then
you won't have anything. Trust? no one trusted anyone like they were
suppose to. Even if I had the absolute proof right now, I wouldn't
give it to you because of your non belief.
I have been the ONLY person to ever have claimed to know what TDB
music and artwork were about. And that is directly what the PF Enigma
is about, the lyrics and the artwork.
Before TDB came out, I thought to myself, wow if only I could write an
album, this is such a great concept!! If only I could write lyrics, I
would have something. But when TDB came out, they had it all for me
to help me understand what someone was doing to me. and it was the
help I needed and prayed for.

I never asked you for your beliefs, I'm very familiar with those. I
asked you for your story, start to finish, all details included. I
tried looking for the very first posts you made to usenet to see if
you actually ever did throw it all out on the table, but Google
doesn't seem to go pre 1997 for the name I think you were using at the
time.
Regardless, there's a difference between having your personal
interpretation of an album give you the kind of motivations you need
at a particular time in your life and claiming that Pink Floyd
orchestrated an internet puzzle because of it. Big, big, bigbigbig
difference. There are crazy and unexplainable things that happen to us
in life, but they are not the work of progressive rock bands; they are
works of fate, God or something like it.
Anyway, whatever. I obviously can't discourage you from trolling
around and dropping little turds of Genesis "clues" but I will say
that aside from that mess you're a pretty cool person. I wish you were
a little more open minded, especially seeing as how you've not only
displayed continued interest in the enigma, you're incredibly
observant and obviously a creative thinker. If you could devote those
energies to finding the REAL solution...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

http://groups.google.tt/groups/search?lr=&safe=off&num=100&q=%22Carl+Palmer%22+group%3Aalt.music.pink-floyd&safe=off&qt_s=Search&as_drrb=b&as_mind=25&as_minm=5&as_miny=1994&as_maxd=25&as_maxm=7&as_maxy=1996

I get nothing. Looks like the dark forces of Carl Palmer have control
over Google as well. Your entries as ***@aol.com have also been
forever erased from usenet history. I guess his secret is safe.

I think you should just admit that you're a clever girl who's been
fucking with people stupid enough to argue with you about this for
well over a decade. :D

luvhockey

2008-05-05 12:17:16 UTC

Post by luvhockey
check you email and know that WISE is a clue......from something up PF
WISE
and WISEMAN.- Hide quoted text -

I can see the similarities in those two images, in the fact that it
appears to be what could be a shirtless guy with lights behind him.
It's not the same image or the same man, but I wouldn't expect it to
be even if one represents the other.
Unfortunately as well, you really can't expect anyone to believe in
your ideas when you support them with clues from Genesis. Unless you
want to be the answer to the "Genesis Enigma" and not the Publius
Enigma.
Despite the detective work which strongly suggests he was this
Hutcheson kid, Genesis never validated his claim to the Publius Enigma
or to be in any way connected to Pink Floyd. Publius gave us the
bright lights in New Jersey. What has Genesis ever given?
You suggest that Genesis proved his validity because he gave clues
with your name in it. But
a. if Genesis was a fake, he was a fake because he liked to fuck with
people. If he liked to fuck with people and he was familiar with your
story (which you had obviously been writing about before he showed up)
then there isn't any reason to believe that he would have a field day
with it, and
b. it's entirely possible you and this person spoke with each other
behind the scenes and made efforts to work together in order to screw
with the newsgroup. You can deny it, but there's no proof. Innocent
until proven guilty, sure, but possibilities to the contrary render
absolute belief vulnerable to questioning.
Show me some real, hard evidence that Genesis was a genuine messenger,
or show how your story relates to the clues given to us by Publius in
1994/95.

I don't expect anyone to believe me. I have my beliefs, you wanted to
know them and I told you. Thats' all I can do. Everything I ever said
is somewhere on the internet. I never pretended to be anyone else. I
had enough trouble trying to be myself and trying to work a computer!!
My mind was still out there..when I started to post on ampf in 94. I
was still not back from the rollercoaster ride someone took me on.
Why there weren't better clues I don't know.I had a story before TDB
was even written, and when it came out it was exactly what I was going
through, exactly, lyrics and artwork. So I figured I would tell what I
know on ampf and I did. I got blasted with hate every day and I
continued talking until my heart couldn't take anymore and I stopped
talking.
I gave you bits of evidence everyday and I could continue to give
them until dooms day. But until you start to have some belief, then
you won't have anything. Trust? no one trusted anyone like they were
suppose to. Even if I had the absolute proof right now, I wouldn't
give it to you because of your non belief.
I have been the ONLY person to ever have claimed to know what TDB
music and artwork were about. And that is directly what the PF Enigma
is about, the lyrics and the artwork.
Before TDB came out, I thought to myself, wow if only I could write an
album, this is such a great concept!! If only I could write lyrics, I
would have something. But when TDB came out, they had it all for me
to help me understand what someone was doing to me. and it was the
help I needed and prayed for.

I never asked you for your beliefs, I'm very familiar with those. I
asked you for your story, start to finish, all details included. I
tried looking for the very first posts you made to usenet to see if
you actually ever did throw it all out on the table, but Google
doesn't seem to go pre 1997 for the name I think you were using at the
time.
Regardless, there's a difference between having your personal
interpretation of an album give you the kind of motivations you need
at a particular time in your life and claiming that Pink Floyd
orchestrated an internet puzzle because of it. Big, big, bigbigbig
difference. There are crazy and unexplainable things that happen to us
in life, but they are not the work of progressive rock bands; they are
works of fate, God or something like it.
Anyway, whatever. I obviously can't discourage you from trolling
around and dropping little turds of Genesis "clues" but I will say
that aside from that mess you're a pretty cool person. I wish you were
a little more open minded, especially seeing as how you've not only
displayed continued interest in the enigma, you're incredibly
observant and obviously a creative thinker. If you could devote those
energies to finding the REAL solution...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

http://groups.google.tt/groups/search?lr=&safe=off&num=100&q=%22Carl+...
I get nothing. Looks like the dark forces of Carl Palmer have control
forever erased from usenet history. I guess his secret is safe.
I think you should just admit that you're a clever girl who's been
fucking with people stupid enough to argue with you about this for
well over a decade. :D- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What? Admit that I was screwing with people's minds? That's all
you've got out of everything I gave you? You must be someone
associated with the forces controlling google and you're trying to
discredit me. What else is new?
I was the one who was screwed with and if you can't see that then I
can't help you anymore. One minute you're interested and the next
you're saying I'm some clever person who made things up. Who are you
and what are YOU trying to prove? That's the real question.
I'd have to be a genius to make up a story that fits TDB. But to have
lived its lyrics before they were written, NO one can take that away
from me.
But to be called someone who lied to the people here and made up
stories is just sad. I had to be completely honest here at all times.
There are many people here that are much brighter than I am and they'd
be able to see through my lies, but no one ever could, no one ever
caught me in a lie. Why would I make up a lie when there is so much
truth in TDB to be told. I suffered so much at the hands of some
people, sufffered so bad that even Cancer and going through Chemo
seems less of a challenge. Mind games can be a horrible thing,
thought control and not knowing what is happening to you and feeling
your mind drifting away and trying to hang onto your sanity with your
every breath. It was a sad and sickening thing that was done to me
and all I can do is talk and say what I need to say. "Its better to
say too much than never to say what you need to say again." ffrom John
Mayer love that song!
I guess this is my last post on the subject. If someone calling
himself chinagreeelvis thinks I'm screwing with the people here, then
its just wasting my time even talking about this here anymore.
Bye, hope the people who know about what happened to me and didn't say
anything, and the people who did their dirty deeds have me on their
minds once and awhile and it eats away at their conscience, like my
cancer, until the day they die.

luvhockey

2008-05-05 14:09:49 UTC

What? Admit that I was screwing with people's minds? That's all
you've got out of everything I gave you? You must be someone
associated with the forces controlling google and you're trying to
discredit me. What else is new?
I was the one who was screwed with and if you can't see that then I
can't help you anymore. One minute you're interested and the next
you're saying I'm some clever person who made things up. Who are you
and what are YOU trying to prove? That's the real question.
I'd have to be a genius to make up a story that fits TDB. But to
have
lived its lyrics before they were written, NO one can take that away
from me.
But to be called someone who lied to the people here and made up
stories is just sad. I had to be completely honest here at all times.
There are many people here that are much brighter than I am and
they'd
be able to see through my lies, but no one ever could, no one ever
caught me in a lie. Why would I make up a lie when there is so much
truth in TDB to be told. I suffered so much at the hands of some
people, sufffered so bad that even Cancer and going through Chemo
seems less of a challenge. Mind games can be a horrible thing,
thought control and not knowing what is happening to you and feeling
your mind drifting away and trying to hang onto your sanity with your
every breath. It was a sad and sickening thing that was done to me
and all I can do is talk and say what I need to say. "Its better to
say too much than never to say what you need to say again." ffrom
John
Mayer love that song!
I guess this is my last post on the subject. If someone calling
himself chinagreeelvis thinks I'm screwing with the people here, then
its just wasting my time even talking about this here anymore.
Bye, hope the people who know about what happened to me and didn't
say
anything, and the people who did their dirty deeds have me on their
minds once and awhile and it eats away at their conscience, like my
cancer, until the day they die.

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-05 17:10:21 UTC

I wish I could get you to tell this "amazing story" from the beginning
to the end, but since you refuse to do it and instead offer me bits
and peices of interesting but unconvincing "clues" you've put
together, I have no choice but to conclude that there isn't any story
to tell, or that if you really do have a story, it's mediocre at best.

So far all I can gleam is, "I dated a famous drummer once and it ended
badly, so I walked out on him. Then one day, completely out of the
blue and after twenty years of not talking to him, he engineered a
psychologically complex conspiracy in order to drive me insane and to
keep me from telling the world about what I can only assume is his
homosexuality."

luvhockey

2008-05-05 17:32:03 UTC

Post by e***@chinagreenelvis.com
I wish I could get you to tell this "amazing story" from the beginning
to the end, but since you refuse to do it and instead offer me bits
and peices of interesting but unconvincing "clues" you've put
together, I have no choice but to conclude that there isn't any story
to tell, or that if you really do have a story, it's mediocre at best.
So far all I can gleam is, "I dated a famous drummer once and it ended
badly, so I walked out on him. Then one day, completely out of the
blue and after twenty years of not talking to him, he engineered a
psychologically complex conspiracy in order to drive me insane and to
keep me from telling the world about what I can only assume is his
homosexuality."

Do the world a favor and pull your lip over your head and swallow!!

luvhockey

2008-05-05 17:35:49 UTC

I'm not reading anymore of your posts Eric, so talk to yourself
bye again!

luvhockey

2008-05-05 17:40:51 UTC

Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-05 17:43:52 UTC

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Okie dokie.

progea

2008-05-08 19:38:56 UTC

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Okie dokie.

Ha-ha-haaa, and then again, in the "Article on Waters in Dallas News"
thread she quotes you with contents from my original post.

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-08 23:56:26 UTC

Post by progea

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Okie dokie.

Ha-ha-haaa, and then again, in the "Article on Waters in Dallas News"
thread she quotes you with contents from my original post.

Well, I think she just meant that she's not going to pay attention to
what I have to say in regards to her claims regarding the enigma.
She's just not willing to defend her position in any sort of organized
or rational way. I also imagine that she really is kind of tired of
the whole thing after fourteen years, and, if she actually believes
any of it, she's either

a. tired of people not being convinced by her disjointed and somewhat
half-assed efforts
or
b. unwilling to compromise her position and listen to reason in the
subconcious fear that her new, more stable reality will be shattered
by critical analysis of her ideas

I thought I would learn something interesting, psychologically
speaking, if I got her to really organize her theory into a single,
comprehensive body of work, but she probably realizes that it's not
worth the effort on her part. I also suspect that she might have
started the whole thing as a joke and was too entertained by how
seriously people took it and how much it bothered them.

luvhockey

2008-05-09 13:56:55 UTC

Post by progea

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Okie dokie.

Ha-ha-haaa, and then again, in the "Article on Waters in Dallas News"
thread she quotes you with contents from my original post.

Well, I think she just meant that she's not going to pay attention to
what I have to say in regards to her claims regarding the enigma.
She's just not willing to defend her position in any sort of organized
or rational way. I also imagine that she really is kind of tired of
the whole thing after fourteen years, and, if she actually believes
any of it, she's either
a. tired of people not being convinced by her disjointed and somewhat
half-assed efforts
or
b. unwilling to compromise her position and listen to reason in the
subconcious fear that her new, more stable reality will be shattered
by critical analysis of her ideas
I thought I would learn something interesting, psychologically
speaking, if I got her to really organize her theory into a single,
comprehensive body of work, but she probably realizes that it's not
worth the effort on her part. I also suspect that she might have
started the whole thing as a joke and was too entertained by how
seriously people took it and how much it bothered them.

organize an enigma into a single comprehensive body of work.
yeah right.

myriadsmallcreature

2008-05-09 14:19:52 UTC

"a single comprehensive body of work."

:).

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-09 14:41:35 UTC

Post by progea

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Okie dokie.

Ha-ha-haaa, and then again, in the "Article on Waters in Dallas News"
thread she quotes you with contents from my original post.

Well, I think she just meant that she's not going to pay attention to
what I have to say in regards to her claims regarding the enigma.
She's just not willing to defend her position in any sort of organized
or rational way. I also imagine that she really is kind of tired of
the whole thing after fourteen years, and, if she actually believes
any of it, she's either
a. tired of people not being convinced by her disjointed and somewhat
half-assed efforts
or
b. unwilling to compromise her position and listen to reason in the
subconcious fear that her new, more stable reality will be shattered
by critical analysis of her ideas
I thought I would learn something interesting, psychologically
speaking, if I got her to really organize her theory into a single,
comprehensive body of work, but she probably realizes that it's not
worth the effort on her part. I also suspect that she might have
started the whole thing as a joke and was too entertained by how
seriously people took it and how much it bothered them.

organize an enigma into a single comprehensive body of work.
yeah right.

Okay... now you can make fun of her for continuing to read and respond
to what I have to say.

luvhockey

2008-05-09 14:50:17 UTC

You want one sentence on this Enigma?
You got it.........
I was lied to and taken on a mental rollercoaster ride with lyrics
and videos and other assorted stalkings from one musician and his
bands and I was brought back to life by others.
bye.

luvhockey

2008-05-10 01:50:19 UTC

probably already mentioned this one before, but as usual no one cares
but just saw it on youtube......
Follow the New Breathe.........
in both the Pulse version and the Live 8 versions of "Breathe"
during the lyrics "the sun" see the camera shot from behind
the drums!!
kewl.....
yours truly
thesun,
D

luvhockey

2008-05-10 01:51:59 UTC

Post by luvhockey
probably already mentioned this one before, but as usual no one cares
but just saw it on youtube......
Follow the New Breathe.........
in both the Pulse version and the Live 8 versions of "Breathe"
during the lyrics "the sun" see the camera shot from behind
the drums!!
kewl.....
yours truly
thesun,
D

oh yes, I also played drums before..
thesun
D#
"the sun is in tune"

luvhockey

2008-05-10 02:18:15 UTC

oh yes, I also played drums before..
thesun
D#
"the sun is in tune"

I think that same camera shot even occurs during Roger's In the Flesh
DVD from 2000
I'll have to look tomorrow. Some coincidence (rolls eyes)

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-10 04:54:01 UTC

oh yes, I also played drums before..
thesun
D#
"the sun is in tune"

I think that same camera shot even occurs during Roger's In the Flesh
DVD from 2000
I'll have to look tomorrow. Some coincidence (rolls eyes)

Jesus, Denise, are you still dropping these dinkleberries of crackpot
"clues?" Do you really desire the negative attention they bring you?
"Stop this nonsense" indeed.

I'm going to prove to you that The Division Bell isn't about you. It's
about me, because guess what? There are fifteen letters in
THEDIVISIONBELL. There are fifteen letters in ERICPAULVINYARD. I was
fifteen the first time I fell in love. The Divison Bell must be about
me and the problems I've had with love. After all, the two heads form
a heart shape...

Let's see. Love. Love. Hmm. There is this girl I met in 2001. (2001,
was, as you know, the same year as in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Stanley
Kubrick wanted Pink Floyd to do the soundtrack, and I heard he synched
the movie up to their music. I'm sure since they did the whole Oz
thing they know about this as well. So they were predicting that
something would happen in 2001 to me, something big...)

This girl, every time I tried to kiss her, she turned away. We were
ALMOST TOUCHING. That was the working title for Cluster One, Almost
Touching...

She was the one who started talking to me in the first place, but
since she wouldn't let me kiss her ever (and yet she would stop by at
like 2 in the morning just to see me) I kept asking WHAT DO YOU WANT
FROM ME. But when I asked her that, she walked out of my door and we
became POLES APART. For years we didn't speak to one another, we were
both MAROONED. We actually went through this cycle a few times, we
would talk again, get close, and then things would become awkward and
our friendship would crumble. It seemed like each time we got back to
being friends it was a GREAT DAY FOR FREEDOM but I was actually
WEARING THE INSIDE OUT. You see, I was not only being too up front
with my emotions (literally wearing my heart outside) but I was also
being destroyed inside because of this cycle.

BUT GUESS WHAT! Today I ran into her again at a concert. At a rock
concert! Today of all days, too, and now I'm writing about the story!
I'm telling the enigma, just like I was told to by the group I saw. I
mean during the show the guy raised his arms at me a lot. I was
standing on a chair in the back and I could see him, he was clearly
rocking out in my direction. The band playing, The Protomen, they're
musicians, they must be in on the whole thing. They knew my story and
what Pink Floyd was up to, so they decided to play in Richmond again
tonight because they know that the last time they played in Richmond
was the last time that Mary and I were friends! She loves The Protomen
and she actually introduced me to them. And she happened to be at the
show tonight, amazing!!!

And I TOOK IT BACK! She asked me if I was still mad at her and I said
no. I took it all back! It's time for me to kill the past and COME
BACK TO LIFE...

So now comes the part where she and I have to KEEP TALKING. But we
might find ourselves LOST FOR WORDS. Still, judging by the smile I saw
on her face, there are HIGH HOPES...

So maybe the Division Bell is about me! Maybe the enigma was created
so that I would come here and realize that The Division Bell fits my
story perfectly... After all, the REAL Publius mentioned taking a
closer look at posts by Evan Coyne Maloney, and guess what he posted
about? He posted that the song titles seemed to work together to tell
a story.

Or maybe Pink Floyd's theme of broken communication is so UNIVERSAL
that ANYONE can apply the basic ideas within these songs to their own
lives. Every Floyd album I've ever listened to, I can identify with in
some way, because that's what Floyd is... it's the goddamned human
experience.

Coincidences are meaningless in and of themselves, especially when you
start reaching for clues as desperately as you do. It took me
literally two seconds of thought to compare the numbers in my name to
the numbers of the title of TDB. Numerology is the lowest of the low
in "proving" significant meaning in coincidence, but I can only
imagine what I could come up with if I spent fourteen years...

luvhockey

2008-05-10 15:41:56 UTC

oh yes, I also played drums before..
thesun
D#
"the sun is in tune"

I think that same camera shot even occurs during Roger's In the Flesh
DVD from 2000
I'll have to look tomorrow. Some coincidence (rolls eyes)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

YEP!! a drum shot, not from directly behind the drummer like Pulse and
Live 8
but a camera shot of the drummer, nonetheless.
siDnee

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-10 16:14:41 UTC

oh yes, I also played drums before..
thesun
D#
"the sun is in tune"

I think that same camera shot even occurs during Roger's In the Flesh
DVD from 2000
I'll have to look tomorrow. Some coincidence (rolls eyes)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

YEP!! a drum shot, not from directly behind the drummer like Pulse and
Live 8
but a camera shot of the drummer, nonetheless.
siDnee

Sad, really. Well, whatever, it seems she's finally learned to shut me
out, so I guess it's time I did the same and just stopped trying to
get through. It's too bad, really... this kind of energy should be
invested in unlocking the mystery of the real puzzle instead of
indulging in a convoluted delusion of grandeur.

luvhockey

2008-05-10 16:24:43 UTC

oh yes, I also played drums before..
thesun
D#
"the sun is in tune"

I think that same camera shot even occurs during Roger's In the Flesh
DVD from 2000
I'll have to look tomorrow. Some coincidence (rolls eyes)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

YEP!! a drum shot, not from directly behind the drummer like Pulse and
Live 8
but a camera shot of the drummer, nonetheless.
siDnee

What do you want from me? Elvis, you mock me, then you want ME to be
nice to you?
TDB is about delusions, "I took a heavenly ride" what do you think
that means? But I knew the moment had arrived for killing the past
and coming back to life.
I guess PF never wrote about delusions before? duh

luvhockey

2008-05-10 16:29:03 UTC

oh yes, I also played drums before..
thesun
D#
"the sun is in tune"

I think that same camera shot even occurs during Roger's In the Flesh
DVD from 2000
I'll have to look tomorrow. Some coincidence (rolls eyes)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

YEP!! a drum shot, not from directly behind the drummer like Pulse and
Live 8
but a camera shot of the drummer, nonetheless.
siDnee

I can't answer anymore questions today, I have to visit my mom today
and then tonite is hockey, then tomorrow is mother in law time.

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-10 17:29:12 UTC

Post by luvhockey
What do you want from me?

It doesn't matter. You're just going to keep going on with this sad
game that you're playing (mostly with yourself) regardless of how
anyone responds to it. You have your own ideas and nobody else is
going to change them... or believe them.

I just can't stand the thought that someone has spent as long as you
have with this mess when they clearly could have been devoting that
kind of time and brainpower to something more interesting or
productive. At least Anthony's crazy-ass theory that Pink Floyd have
access to forbidden knowledge actually leads me down paths of esoteric
thought and research which I might not have taken otherwise. Yours
just makes me think of a stark naked and sociopathic Robert Palmer
tapping away at a fax machine.

I've lost what interest I had in your story. It's become apparent to
me that there really isn't that much to it or you're not going to tell
it in a way that isn't obscured by your obsession with the Pink Floyd
half of it and doesn't come across as muddled up bits of disorganized
brain-dumpage. I find it doubtful that you'll ever admit that you're
either not 100% serious about it or that, if you are, that you might
actually be wrong, so rest assured that you won't be getting any more
unwanted attention from me as long as you keep your personal "clues"
out of my neck of the enigma discussion.

Kyla =^. .^=

2008-05-05 17:52:17 UTC

"luvhockey" >

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Good for you...now can you delete the entire thread?
I'm going to.
(((HUG)))
Kyla

luvhockey

2008-05-05 18:53:18 UTC

Post by Kyla =^. .^=
"luvhockey" >

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Good for you...now can you delete the entire thread?
I'm going to.
(((HUG)))
Kyla

No I can't delete the enitre thread. I only have 2 posts on here,
well now 3 and that's it. all the rest are his quotes of my old
posts.
Lets not say anymore in this thread ok? talk to ya in another thread.

e***@chinagreenelvis.com

2008-05-05 19:07:01 UTC

Post by Kyla =^. .^=
"luvhockey" >

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Good for you...now can you delete the entire thread?
I'm going to.
(((HUG)))
Kyla

Quickly, before Google makes it permanent!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.pink-floyd/browse_thread/thread/4848c6fb6a085a1d?hl=en#

Crap. Too late.

I'm still waiting for my prize, by the way. Still haven't gotten that
"awakening by direct contact..." or whatever it was supposed to be...

Kyla =^. .^=

2008-05-06 17:43:58 UTC

"luvhockey"
On May 5, 1:52 pm, "Kyla =^. .^="

Post by Kyla =^. .^=
"luvhockey" >

Post by luvhockey
Eric, I'm not reading what you have to say anymore.
bye

Good for you...now can you delete the entire thread?
I'm going to.
(((HUG)))
Kyla

Kyla =^. .^=

2008-05-05 00:30:32 UTC

"luvhockey" <
On May 4, 8:47 am, luvhockey <

On May 3, 10:09 pm,

What a jerk!!

Yes Eric Vinyard (chinagreenelvis) You are the Winner!! Jerks are,
unfortunately disqualified from receiving the prize. So sorry!

I have him in my KF, can you put him in yours? Yes, he is a jerk!!
Hug
Kyla

m***@gmail.com

2018-08-22 18:57:00 UTC

m***@gmail.com

2018-08-22 18:59:17 UTC

It's so simple.

Astral projection. All those guys doing it for record the albuns.

luvprog

2018-08-22 19:23:01 UTC

Wow look at the haters...you jealous?

luvprog

2018-08-22 19:58:15 UTC